‘Guwayu’ is a Wiradjuri word meaning ‘still and yet and for all times’. Guwayu – For All Times is a groundbreaking collection of 63 poems from 36 First Nations poets in 12 First Nations languages. Commissioned by Red Room Poetry, this collection – 16 years in the making – is an exquisite expression of living First Nations culture, with the diversity of languages represented unprecedented in publishing. Hear from the remarkable poets and contributors to the anthology, Ellen van Neerven, Nardi Simpson, Kirli Saunders and Joel Davison, in conversation with ABC Radio National’s Daniel Browning.

Presented in partnership with Red Room Poetry.

This podcast was recorded live at the 2021 Sydney Writers' Festival.   

This recording is available on all major podcast platforms.


Ellen van Neerven (Australian)

Ellen van Neerven

Ellen van Neerven belongs to the Mununjali Yugambeh people of South East Queensland. Ellen is an award-winning writer, editor and literary activist. They have authored three books including a new poetry collection Throat, which explores different ways to be heard, and edited the anthology Flock: First Nations Stories Then and Now.

Nardi Simpson (Australian)

Nardi Simpson

Nardi Simpson is a Yuwaalaraay storyteller from the NSW north west freshwater plains. A musician, composer and playwright, Nardi is the author of Song of the Crocodile published by Hachette Australia in October, 2020. Song of the Crocodile was the 2018 winner of the black&write Fellowship and was shortlisted for the Victorian Premier’s Literary Awards Indigenous Writing category. Nardi is currently undertaking a PhD in composition at the Australian National University, researching the traditions of song and story in her beloved Yuwaalaraay homelands.

Kirli Saunders (Australian)

Kirli Saunders

Kirli Saunders is a proud Gunai Woman, teacher and artist and is an award-winning international writer of poetry, plays and picture books. In 2020, Kirli was named the NSW Aboriginal Woman of the Year. Kirli created Poetry in First Languages, delivered by Red Room Poetry, supporting First Nations language conservation and celebration through the arts. Her poetry collection Kindred was shortlisted for the ABIA 2020 Book Award. Kirli was also the inaugural winner of the WA Premier’s Daisy Utemorrah Award. Her most recent work, Bindi, is a verse novel for young readers. She is currently working on a sequel.

Joel Davison (Australian)

Joel Davison

Joel Davison is a Gadigal and Dunghutti man from Sydney, working to revitalise his family's language. He joined Red Room poetry to explore his connection to language and country. In his 9-5, he leads technology projects at Commonwealth Bank.

Daniel Browning (Australian)

Daniel Browning

Daniel Browning is an Aboriginal journalist, radio broadcaster, documentary maker, sound artist and writer. Currently, he produces and presents Awaye!, the Indigenous art and culture program on ABC RN, a specialist radio network of Australia's national broadcaster. Awaye! surveys contemporary Indigenous cultural practice across the arts spectrum. A visual arts graduate, Daniel is also a widely published freelance arts writer. He is a former guest editor of Artlink Indigenous, an occasional series of the quarterly Australian contemporary arts journal. He is the curator of Blak Box, a specially designed sound pavilion commissioned by Urban Theatre Projects, a performing arts company based in western Sydney. Daniel is a descendant of the Bundjalung and Kullilli peoples of far northern New South Wales and south-western Queensland.