The role of women in Islam is hotly debated among Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Yet Muslim women’s perspectives are often excluded from mainstream discussion. Journalist Amal Awad wrote Beyond Veiled Clichés to explore life from the perspective of Arab women, both in the West and the Arab world. Susan Carland is an academic and author whose book Fighting Hislam proffers a new kind of feminism in which religious beliefs co-exist with women’s rights. They talk to Yassmin Abdel-Magied.